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Episode 2.7 – Shaia

Episode 2.7 – Shaia

Come on a journey with Lucas and Matt exploring the journey of growth and transformation. Alexander Shaia – psychologist, anthropologist and spiritual director, help us see what faith (and indeed scripture) looks like when we adopt this as our primary lens.


Specifically, he has developed a resource known as Quadratos – the name he has given to the discovery and creation of an ancient four-fold tool to aid the journey of growth and transformation. You can check it out at


For further exploration check out his book “Heart and Mind: The Four-Gospel Journey for Radical Transformation.”


Episode 2.7 was produced by Adam Ball.


Furthermore, all music and sound design was done by Adam Ball. Check out:


Beyondering Theme music created at Got Fink Studios by Caleb Garfinkel

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